About/FAQ

Minor error in the video to note, the dungeon daily questgiver also has Normal dungeon quests (The video only mentions Heroics). Also the starting gear will show as a ? in your bags, this is not a problem it’s just due to them being custom and client icons being held client side. Unfortunately it does mean you will have to drag them into the characterpane to equip them.

Social Media:
Please be warned, we do not have any social media pages – any pages representing themselves as TBC 5 Man are fake and not run by us.

Thinking of giving it a try?
It’s really recommended that you take the time to watch the new player guide and read through the whole FAQ. It will help ease you in if you are unfamilar with the server or the expansion plus most if not all the custom stuff is explained below.

What do I do as a new player?
Once you’ve sorted out your character, the best way to start progressing is to join normal dungeons (List of TBC dungeons). Use /4 (LookingForGroup chat) to organise or seek groups.

Please bare in mind saying “LFG normal dungeon” isn’t going to be that helpful. People who form groups wait for people to /w them. The best thing to do is create a group yourself or join a group activitly seeking more players in /4 i.e “LFM 1 DPS 1 Healer Slavepens Normal”.

There are always people waiting on the sidelines for someone to take the bulls by the horns and start a group; at the very least try something like “LF normals, /w me if you’re interested in forming a group”. Worst comes to worst if you don’t want to be the person to form a group and would rather wait for an opportunity, spend sometime working on your professions or maybe do some daily quests in The Isle of Quel’Danas.

Plus you will be automatically placed in a Guild called “New On The Block” with other new players. No one should carry out their journey alone 🙂

Gear Progression:
The server tries to keep to the roots as much as possible concerning gear progression. There are no malls or mall like vendors. Gear is earnt through raiding, doing dungeons, the AH, Badge of Justice vendors, PVP and crafting. TBC 5 MAN values the importance of immersion and as such avoids anything that takes away from the experience.

General Rates:
Instant 70, 5 Man-Scripted Raids & Dungeons
Version 2.4.3
Professions 5x (Instant 300 Skill) | Rep 3x | Honor 1.75x | Weapon Skill Instant | Alt-Friendly – 4 Rare Drops Instead of 1 On Pre-Raid Dungeon Bosses
First flying mount 150% flying speed 100% ground and it’s free from any dark portal class trainer!
No Attunements required for raids, heroics and Black Morass.

Where do I get real-time updates and news?:
All changes and updates are handled in real-time on the discords #updates channel. The discord is also where a lot of the GM assistance happens, aswell as the place where all the community discussion occurs, recruitment and social organising. Basically if you aren’t on the discord you aren’t truly on the server! 😉

How many people play on the server?
Peak times 250-500 logged in EU time, a little less NA. Both communities are continuing to show strong growth since the server released on Jan 1st 2019. [Edit 09/09/2019 – With the recent release and hype around Classic the population has dropped but we expect it to go back to normal once the hype cycle has run it’s course.]

As of the 24th of September 2019 – 32,350 raid bosses have been slain since PVE logging came into affect on May 6th 2019.  http://tbcwow.co.uk/home/pve/PVEStatistics.php

A lot of the custom dailies (reward gold, tokens etc.)  revolve around doing normal/heroic dungeons. For a new player this means easy access to dungeon gear and a smooth transition into Tier 4 and beyond!

Can you get Badge of Justice gear equivalent to T6 gear?
Players will need to complete a quest to kill Lady Vashj and Kael’thas Sunstrider before being able to gain access to the The Isle of Quel’Danas Badge of Justice vendor. The quest can be found in the middle of Shattrath.

What have you changed in the raids?
All raids have been scaled to a 5 man party composition. The bosses are scripted to be blizz-like, however in some cases the script/spells are tweaked for a 5man setup. To keep players posted on changes, the buff bot at the beginning of each raid provides handbooks containing lore snippets and also info concerning custom mechanics or changes for each boss.

All in all the aim is always to make the bosses play like they would in retail (contain all the retail mechanics, fully scripted), work for a 5 man party containing 1 tank, 3 dps and 1 healer whilst also adding a bit more challenge to help bridge the gap between the old warcraft content and current players skill level.

What quality of life/General changes so far?-
Each raid has a npc at the entrance which provides the typical party buffs.

First flying is given to players for free. Learn the skill from any class trainer at the dark portal and then go to the mount vendor to pick a basic flyer.

Talent resets are free from dark portal class trainers.

All professions skill instantly to 300. This means you won’t need to do any vanilla profession grinding. In addition to this there are also immersive farming areas in Outland to collect old world mats if desired.

Enchanting TBC enchants now creates an item(similar to wotlk scrolls) which can apply said enchant rather than the current system where only the enchanter can apply the enchant via a trade window? These items can also be sold on the AH. No more hunting down enchanters everytime u get a new piece of gear that needs an enchant. This only works for enchants on this vendor – http://db.excalibur.ws/?npc=26302#sells:50+1

Amount of herb/mine nodes active at a given time in each Outland zone has been doubled.

Hearthstone is now on a 15 minutes cd

Player can queue to battlegrounds on the move using items provided ingame from the pvp vendor.

The Auction house is populated by an AH bot. This is to fill any market gaps. The prices are set to not be in competition with players but also set in away to stop price inflation. See it as the market regulator.

Shattrath City has an Auction house, old world pvp vendors, target dummies and more.

Darkmoon faire in Terokkar Forest is open 24-7.

Transmutes now have significantly reduced cool down or it’s been removed

First flying mount is now 150% flying speed and 100% ground and it’s free from your class trainer at the dark portal.

All primals (shadow,fire,water,earth,life) have a 2x increase chance to drop.

A token called ‘Token of Achievement’ drop from any creature/object that drops Badge of Justice. Two drop at a time. Using these tokens a player can purchase old world items from a custom vendor in Shattrath. Mercurius will also trade in 2 Badge of Justice for 1 Token of Achievement if desired or 1 Warsong Gulch Badge for 1 Token of Achievement.

Death ghost runspeed has been increased by 250%

Although there are a lot of slight raid changes to suit a 5 man compositions. One piece of information we think to good not to share, is the fact that Hyjal does not require a reclear of each trash wave after a boss wipe. Once a set of waves are completed, the boss still stay up until killed or the raid is reset in hardware memory (basically if no players are in the raid for longer than 5mins).

Instant Weapon/Defense Skill

Every 1-3 hours (depending on the number of current active sessions) an arena chest event will start. Uponing starting a portal will spawn in Shattrath next to the PvP vendors which will take you to a random location at the current arena event. There are 5 event locations at the moment, the number will keep increasing as more are added. The chest rewards gold, pvp tokens, recipes, darkmoon cards and also a 15% chance to get any of the Token of Achievement vanity or custom toy/mounts. Player kills at the event location will also reward pvptokens and 3x honor.

Zul’Farrak is now scaled up to be a level 70 normal dungeon. It’s scaled to be on par with Shadowlabs normal – also contains custom mechanics. All the loot is scaled up or replaced. This includes boss loot and general trash loot. Players will also get an abundance of aldor/scryer rep item drops.

Addition of a World buff npc. Players can collectively donate their Token of Achievement points to Alera in the middle of Shattrath. Once she has enough ToA to meet the goal set, she will announce a 5min timer. When the timer reaches 0 Alera will cast three world buffs on all players within a 500 yard radius. Player can see the current status of the goal by talking to Alera and clicking the interact option.

What are the QoL or functionality changes to Classes so far?

All the changes below were well thought out changes to accomodate an envirument where a raid can only fit 5 players rather than 25. Majority of the changes below are only effective in raids as to not affect PVP

Melee DPS:
A weaker version of a Shamans windfury is now available via a scroll. This is to address it’s requirement for efficient dps output from melee in a raiding comp that lacks a shaman
The spell/scroll is zone restricted and only active in raids. This change was thoroughly tested to be balanced and not exploitable. Additionally it also stacks with a shamans windfury totem and their windfury weapon buff.

Caster DPS:
Curse of elements is also now available via a scroll on the same vendor as the scroll of windfury. It’s the same in that it only works in raids and it’s locked to specific classes. (Mages/Priests)

Warlocks:
Soulshards are now stack-able to 40.

Summoning Demons and creating Healthstones won’t consume soul shards This QoL change is mainly aimed at reducing the amount of preparation headache for warlocks that mainly pvp or are just generally active in battlegrounds.

Summoning a player now only requires 2 players instead of 3.

Priest:
Vampiric Embrace now does 50% less healing and mana return in raids. [Context for this change] Considering Vampire Embrace only affects the players in the group the priest resides in. For a 5man raid composition, it scales as if you had 5 shadow priests in each group in 25 man. The mana reduction does not apply to the Shadowpriest that casted the spell.

Priest Manafiend leech increased by 40% for Disc/Holy priests when in raids/dungeons. Plus the amount of mana returned will now go off the priests healing power rather than shadow damage when inside a raid/dungeon, this does not apply to shadow priests.

When the priest’s Lightwell is clicked inside a raid/dungeon, all players in a 80 yard range recieve an additional 15 second mana rejuvenation buff which restores 200 mana every 3 seconds for 15 seconds. The result is 1000 mana per charge, out of the possible 5 charges the Lightwell offers before disappearing. Unlike the Lightwell’s healing buff, the mana regen buff is NOT susceptible to damage taken.

Curse of elements is also now available via a scroll on the same vendor as the scroll of windfury. It’s the same in that it only works in raids.

When using Healing Focus(Rank3) talent, pushback reduction will be 100% instead of 70% when inside a raid.

Shadowfiend will no longer take spell damage in dungeons/raids.

Top rank Mind Blast when used by a shadowpriest only will now apply Shadow Vulnerability if player is inside a raid/dungeon. This change is directed at reducing a shadow priests reliance on having a warlock in their party to do efficient dps in a raid setting.

Paladin:
Paladin Holy light will now do a base on average 150 (depending on holy light rank) 20 yard radius heal around the beneficiary target. The amount depends on the rank used and this only occurs in raids/dungeons.

Avenger’s Shield is now instant cast (still requires standing still) at level 70. Mana cost reduced by 50%.

Paladin Illumination mana return increased from 60% to 70% inside raids.

Top rank Blessing of Sanctuary (group/single) now restores 2% of the players mana when the player blocks/parry or dodges a melee attack. This only affects Paladins. It works outside and inside dungeons/raids.

Righteous fury threat bonus increased by 15%.

Improved Righteous Fury talent damage taken reduction increased 15%.

Crusader Strike now restores 4% of a players mana when used inside a raid/dungeon. This change is directed at improving the mana issue present with ret palas in raids. It will also allow them to push harder on the dps, which should increase their viability in raids.

Druid:
Druids now have an out of combat res. (found on the general tab in players spellbook)

(Boomkin – mana regen) Dreamstate benefit doubled for all ranks. Not active in BG/Arena.

Rage income from damage taken increased by 40% to offset the lower amount of melee damage taken by mobs in a 5 man scale environment. This is only in dungeons and raids + it only applies to Druids and prot Warriors.

Druid Swipe now hits 5 targets instead of 3 and generates threat to the same amount as Thunderclap at level 70.

Warrior:
Warrior shouts now lasts 10 mins at level 70.

Rage income from damage taken increased by 40% to offset the lower amount of melee damage taken by mobs in a 5 man scale environment. This is only in dungeons and raids + it only applies to Druids and prot Warriors.

Warrior Thunderclap has 20% more threat generation and now hits 5 targets instead of 4 at level 70.

Devastate now does 100% weapon damage instead of 50%.

Hunter:
Hunter pets start at loyalty 6 with 290 training points. (requires the owner to dismiss and resummon once after taming)

Shaman:
Shaman Mana tide regen increased by 1.8x for the caster of the totem when in raids/dungeons.

Healing Stream totem now does 1.75x increased healing when used by a Resto Shaman in raid/dungeons.

Buff totems now last 10mins up from 2mins.

When using Healing Focus(Rank3) talent, pushback reduction will be 100% instead of 70% when inside a raid.

Chain heal jump radius increased by 10 yards when inside raids/dungeons.

A restoration shaman’s mana spring totem will now also apply the healing stream totem aura when inside a raid/dungeon.

Mage:
Mana Emerald mana gain increased by 40% when used inside a raid/dungeon.

Curse of elements is also now available via a scroll on the same vendor as the scroll of windfury. It’s the same in that it only works in raids

Rogue:
Poisons are not removed on Arena join.

What are the current raid lockouts?
Kara,Mag,Gruul on 2 days | SSC, The Eye, ZA on 3 days | BT, Hyjal on 4 days | Sunwell on 5 days.

What PVP changes have you made?
Every 1.5mins you are in a battleground you earn a PVP token which can be used to buy S1 gear and other goodies.

Battlegrounds are cross-faction and mixed (if on the oppsite faction, visually you will be changed to oppersite factions race)

Players can duel in Shattrath and upon a duel finishing, both players will have their hp/mana pools set back to full and cooldowns reset. Please note this only occurs in when dueling in Shattrath.

Previous season gear set gear can be bought with PvE tier tokens or honor & PVP off-pieces can be bought with Badge of Justice.

2v2 arena point distribution increased x2 and 3v3 arena point distribution is increased by 2.15x.

Honor rate is now 1.5x instead of 1.0.

Battleground token requirements on PVP gear has now been removed from vendors.

Alterac Valley is a completely custom BG focus on a more arena-esque vibe where players get increasing damage done/taken by getting killing blows.

Halaa is now a contested arena similar to Gurubashi. Kills earn you PVP tokens and the chest event from Gurubashi has also been updated and moved to Halaa.

Custom vendors that reward profession goods and a vendor-able item to sell for gold. These can be bought with battleground tokens or honor.
Battleground balancing system to ensure the numbers per team is balanced for a fair match.

Daily quests for each battleground, offering valuable reward choices, including a big bag of herbs, a random uncut epic gem, uncut meta gems and more.

Players have access to a portable battlemaster (to join battlegrounds) via an item bought from on of the PVP vendors in Shattrath. Players can now join on the move instead of having to be in a main city.

What about the starting experience?
A new player will start at level 70 in a immersive custom starting area. You’ll find everything you need at your designated faction camp through the dark portal. This includes trainers (gives u free flying), mount vendor. Lastly you’ll be pleased to hear that all pre-tbc class quest spells or items (totems) are given to the player on character creation. 

Is cross-faction enabled?
Yes, right now Party, Channel Join, Chat and PVP is enabled for Cross-Faction.

When does the server raids/dungeons reset?
To accommodate as many timezones as possible the current instance reset time is 8am UTC.

What PvE content is out right now?
Kara, ZA, Gruul, Magtheridon, SSC, The Eye,  Hyjal, Black Temple and Sunwell. All the expansion raids have been delicately developed for a 5 man party composition.

Is multi-boxing allowed? 
Absolutely. It’s a fun way and different way to play the game. The only rule is to not effect another persons play negatively. This would include using multiple characters for the sole purpose of beating up solo players out in the world. If someone attacks your multi-boxing team – this would be the only exception for pvp being allowed. Due to the team not wanting to constantly police this, any abuse will come with a heavy punishment, be smart about it.

How do I get into Heroic Dungeons?
Attunement Keys for Heroics don’t require rep so you can simply buy them from the faction vendors.

Is there a global channel for in game group advertisement?
LookingForGroup channel is player joined by default and is crossfaction & serverwide.


I’ve encounter a rare bug that’s stopping raid/dungeon progression, help! If you do have a problem with a dungeon or a raid that is progress stopping and there isnt a GM around to help quickly. We have made it so instance/raids drop from memory after 5 minutes. Just get everyone to leave the dungeon/raid for the said amount of time, the raid mobs will reset (not resetting progress). Good opportunity for a coffee/tea or toilet break.

What Core does the server use?
We use cmangos which can be found here – https://cmangos.net/ ❀
This server would not be a thing without the countless amount of developers that have contributed to the mangos (+current forks). To them we owe a special thanks.